Interview with Iona Winter

Thank you for talking to PMH Iona. Tell me more about the mental health problems you have had, and their history.
Mental health issues began in my teens, as they do with many people who've experienced childhood trauma, familial dysfunction and inherited trauma. Then at 16, after my best friend was killed in a motorbike accident, I spiralled into a deep depression. Nobody seemed equipped to deal with it, so I began writing poetry to articulate what I was feeling.
In my early 20's, after two violent sexual assaults, I accessed psychotherapeutic support for complex PTSD. What helped most was that my therapist took me seriously, and was also a creative herself. We began unpacking my trauma history, and as I became more aware of the impacts of trauma, I was able to see how this affected my decision making, negative sense of self, and explore healthier ways to support myself. Once the door is open for self-discovery and healing it doesn't close, because we're all a work-in-progress.
Wanting to support others (the wounded healer archetype is strong in me), I trained as a holistic psychotherapist, and worked in the trauma field for 25 years. When a head injury stopped me in my tracks, once again I was called to explore depression and grief within myself, and adjust to life with a radically changed sense of identity.
Like many women worldwide, I also live with a disability created by medical misadventure with pelvic mesh, have gotten through cancer and the associated health/mental health issues, yet throughout my life poetry has always been a trusted friend.
But in 2020, all that I'd survived and healed from quickly became irrelevant, when my only child Reuben died by suicide during Covid lockdown restrictions in New Zealand. To say this took me to my knees would be a total understatement. Ever since, I've had to face into complicated grief, and more layers of trauma (like the onion analogy).
How have you got through?
Writing poetry, enables me to express the gut-wrenching grief of being a suicide bereaved mother. Since Reuben's death, and with a spiritual framework deeply rooted in nature, my commitment to holistic wellbeing, and the love of good people in my life, I've felt called to put my energy into several creative projects.
It quickly became evident, as I sought out personal accounts of grief and suicide bereavement (not the academic or self-help variety), that there were very few resources available. In what felt like a natural progression, I set up a small indie press (Elixir & Star Press, in Reuben's memory) to create space for other people's expressions of grief in New Zealand; because this felt equally as important as finding my own way through it.
a liminal gathering (2023) was the first project; a multimedia grief almanac, the first of its kind here, containing work from over 100 New Zealand artists. Alongside this I worked on a poetry collection In the shape of his hand lay a river (2024) and a hybrid non-fiction memoir A Counter of Moons (2025) centred around suicide bereavement.
A Counter of Moons is deeply personal, and being a non-fiction book has significantly less distance from my emotions than poetry does. But I wanted to present this experience of bereavement openly, so that other people know they're not alone when grieving the death of someone beloved who has taken their life. It discusses many viewpoints on grief and shares poetry that I found along the way. There's a great deal of grief in the world now, and yet we still lack the resources, time and ability to attend to it. My aim is to create more space to talk with one another, rather than becoming silent or avoiding the issue of suicide, be that ideation or completion. I'm not interested in being a best-seller, but my hope in sharing this work is, to quote the wonderful poet Joy Harjo in Poet Warrior (2021) to, "...help the next person find their way through the dark."
I often say to 'get over' the death of my beloved son would mean that I have ceased loving. In my experience love and pain are intertwined; they coexist with one another, and if we love deeply, then naturally we will grieve deeply. The book is an opening, not a closure, because as traumatic loss author Joanne Cacciatore comments, in Grieving is Loving (2020), "Closure is for doors and windows, not for emotions, particularly not for grief."
Why poetry? And how could other people benefit from writing poetry?
Poetry enables a release onto the page, it externalises the internal, validates an experience and allows me to breathe out. I believe writing about the difficult things in life is a protest too, because these are often issues that are silenced in the world. Poetry connects me to things outside of myself too; it is inter-dimensional and quite unlike having a conversation with a stranger.
I see poetry and other forms of creative expression, as powerful components in the wellbeing journeys of ourselves and others. Creating, is a way of sharing the unspeakable, wordless and complicated traumas we experience throughout life; and I've found that this can also be of support when I feel isolated, whilst dealing with personal issues.
"It feels like now is the time to pay attention, beyond the chatter and superficiality, and respect one another despite our differences. If we can listen wisely to the quiet that surrounds grief, we might just notice the presence of something larger than ourselves - and how sacred everything is, including grieving." - A Counter of Moons (2025), Iona Winter.
BLACKBIRD
(as published in Suicide No.2 and In the shape of his hand lay a river)
There is no shelter in this empty whare I've become, and the
mamae — I hate the way that kupu contains 'mama'.
In the wind is the sound of my unvoiced keening; in the
mama blackbird's beak the worms of my earthbound grief,
and in the sunshine on my upturned face reminders of your
tenderness.
I walk the in-between, accustomed to the piercing threat of
losing myself to this sorrow. And I kid myself, that if I look
deeply enough into my mirror-reflected eyes I might
glimpse you there.
When will I emerge from my own shallow grave?
I wobbled last night at your second wake, and knew
precisely how you'd joined the tupuna — to rest in the
whetū, and lay your hands upon my back. But I no longer
recognise the landscape of my body, like the ash that is
weeping.
These tears dripping from chin to bare knees will never
cease — the impermanence of life and permanence of death.
Tell me, where is the home for bereaved mothers?
~
NOTE: Te Reo Māori words:
whare: home, mamae: pain, kupu: word, whetū: stars, tupuna: ancestors
THE SOUND OF RAUPŌ IN THE WIND
Lights come on across the river; another turning of day into night envelops me. I listen for you in wind-bent raupō, seek you in emergent stars; finding only my reflection in the water.
Swallows flit over whirlpools beneath the swing bridge; riroriro call bedtime from the beeches. Can you hear the things I am unable to voice?
In the clonking boulders below, I imagine you murmur enlightened words in reply. How will you find me when it’s my turn to go?
Treetops aflame, I see you in the retreating sun, mirrored by the darkening awa. Downstream the waters are quieter; they will lap me to sleep while you sing me home.
~
NOTE: Te Reo Māori words:
raupō: bullrushes,
riroriro: grey warbler,
awa: river.
ABOUT IONA
Iona is a poet, essayist, storyteller and editor, with several published collections of poetry and hybrid fiction. She has dedicated the last four years to researching grief, and her latest book A Counter of Moons was recently published. Iona's creative work often references the intersection between the natural world and human emotion, and includes poems spray-painted on fences, collaborative exhibitions with musicians and mixed-media artists, and performances at festivals. When she’s not writing you’ll probably find her in the garden, in Reefton, on New Zealand's southern West Coast.
Books:
A Counter of Moons, Steele Roberts Aotearoa 2025
In the shape of his hand lay a river, Elixir & Star Press 2024
a liminal gathering, Elixir & Star Press 2023
Gaps in the Light, AdHoc Press 2021
then the wind came, Steele Roberts Aotearoa 2018